Postscript to the Ukraine peace gathering in Jeddah

As I anticipated, the BBC reported briefly this morning that the gathering in Jeddah over the weekend to discuss Ukrainian proposals for peace ended without any concrete results.  This did not prevent today’s edition of The Financial Times from calling it a success because of the attendance by China and China’s affirmation that it will participate in such discussions in the future. I further expect that the same kind of Big Lie claim of victory in what is in reality a blatant defeat will be attempted by the United States and its allies when the Russians recapture Kharkov, the Ukraine’s second largest city, and snatch up the whole of the remaining Ukrainian coastline on the Black Sea by overrunning Nikolayev and Odessa. This could come in as little as a couple of months from now, given the near destruction of Ukrainian strategic reserves these past couple of months and plans of the Kremlin to go on the offensive once the Ukrainian counter-offensive abates and before the onset of the rainy season in autumn, which works against large scale military operations..

What rabbits will Jake Sullivan, Blinken and his colleagues at the State Department try to pull out of a hat then? What will happen then is also now taking shape. The Poles, with U.S. encouragement, will move into Lvov and Western Ukraine in what is called a defensive deployment of peacekeepers to prevent further Russian aggression and the United States will say that it has preserved Ukrainian sovereignty in the face of overwhelming Russian military force and the incompetence of Zelensky and his generals. We may safely assume that Zelensky will have been physically ‘neutralized’ by that point to avoid his whining about U.S. treachery to the global press.

The problem for the Biden administration is that it will put forward these transparently phony claims of victory in the midst of the 2024 presidential campaign, when its Big Lie will come under fierce attack from the Republicans Donald Trump and Ron Desantis on the one hand and on the other hand from Robert F. Kennedy in the Democratic camp.

Meanwhile, as regards the costs to the EU Member States of their foolhardy subordination to Washington on sanctioning Russia, we can thank The Financial Times for its article today putting figures on the losses booked by energy companies, banks and other major businesses which sold their Russian operations under fire sale conditions or have seen them confiscated by the Russian state as compensation for Western seizures of Russian state and private assets in the EU. In the best of circumstances, they retained title but have been required to report the assets they still own as ‘impaired’ for accounting purposes since no dividends or principal can be transferred abroad. The number offered by the FT is over 100 billion euros in losses.  Add to that the economic losses to the general population in the EU due to vastly inflated energy costs following the turn away from Russian hydrocarbons.  The FT says nothing about that, but I would guess it exceeded 200 billion euros if we take only the publicly reported ameliorative measures of Germany and several other EU countries to compensate individuals and companies for the energy price shock. 

The net result of these Western losses approaches the Russian financial losses in Europe and America. So where is the Western ‘win’ in its ‘sanctions from hell’ applied to Russia?

©Gilbert Doctorow, 2023

7 thoughts on “Postscript to the Ukraine peace gathering in Jeddah

  1. The number I have read for the losses due to the costs of support to consumers and business, as well as downturns in industry, was €800 billion. No European countries can continue its support of energy bills and the fall out of economic activity, and the real movements to deindustrialize are just starting (even pushed along by the green agenda). All these policies will result in massive blow back and whiplash among consumers and voters in the future.

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  2. The ‘stalemate’ being pushed all over, and all kinds of commentaries about a frozen conflict, ceasefire, softening UA demands, etc., can only be viewed as the maximum best case scenario that people dare hope for. The chances that their best hopes will be granted by the magic history fairy is, to put it mildly, thin. When assessing the future, you are better off entertaining the possibility of worst case outcomes (what if I fall off the cliff; what if somebody steals my luggage or my passport, money, tickets; factoring worst case scenario’s helps to avoid them).

    The current most probably scenario is that the West/UA will run out of ammo, soldiers, weapons, and other material prerequisites for armed conflict.

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  3. Hello Dr. Doctorow, as to farcical Ukraine peace gathering in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, since Russia was not invited to attend, it was a sham from the beginning. Now to the Poles, if they move into Lvov, that will probably elicit a Russian response. Best Regards from Marc in “Little” Petersburg.

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  4. Belarus has expressed opposition to any Polish incursions into the Ukraine, and (I think) Putin has agreed with that, despite earlier expressing no such opposition. So if Poland does attempt to ‘stabilise’ parts of the Ukraine, what do you expect to happen? (That is if what I have said is correct).

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    1. I do not believe that Russia will object to a Polish occupation of the Lvov region of Western Poland, which the Poles rightfully claim was always Polish national territory. If the Poles do so, then that very fact undermines completely Western criticism of Russia’s annexation of Donbas and other Ukrainian territory which it may seize before the war is over

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